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Thanks well thanks for having me here

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today the last time I addressed this SSC

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previously first time it was about 2007

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about my experience of anomalies and

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crop circles and then the year after

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that I came back and talked about what

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remote viewing tells us about UFOs and

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Roger Nelson has been twisting my arm

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every year about what I'm going to

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present next so thanks Roger and I also

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to thank Dan Sheehan for some

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conversations about this topic last year

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so I've been looking for ideas and

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theories that explain some of the

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phenomena that we talked about the

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things were interested in in this

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society and I haven't really come up

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with anything except recently I came

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across the idea of many worlds many

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worlds interpretation so I thought I'd

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investigate it so where does this begin

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it actually interesting enough has its

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genesis with the Copenhagen

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interpretation of quantum physics

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because if you know anything about the

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Copenhagen interpretation it tells us

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it's considered a non realistic model

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because it tells us there's a separation

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between the macrocosmic worlds which we

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experience personally and the

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microcosmic world of subatomic particles

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and basically it goes even further to

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tell us that there is no quantum world

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there's dis quantum description and

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people who were associated with Niels

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Bohr and his assistants basically told

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us don't look to quantum mechanics to

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explain anything else out of quantum

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mechanics it's not there's no quantum

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world there's this quantum description

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and all we need our classical

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measurements to tell us about the

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quantum world basically what Bohr said

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is that we're just reformulating

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classical mechanics to adapt for the you

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know to the existence of the quantum of

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action well a lot of people found this

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kind of not very satisfactory and there

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are two main challenges to Copenhagen

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and I know people have different ideas

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about what Copenhagen is but we only

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have ten minutes so we have to kind of

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keep it simple one is the preferred

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basis problem if everything at the basis

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of reality is generated from the

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Schrodinger wave equation why don't we

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see a kind of smeared out featureless

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wave-like reality why do things appear

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solid why didn't they take the features

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that they do and that's why does it

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appear to us the way it does secondly

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this is what Schrodinger referred to as

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jellyfish occation how come we don't

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observe the macrocosmic superpositions

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why do we see things at particular

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colors they are the temperature that it

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isn't so forth secondly the problem of

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infinite regression where does

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observation end

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I mean if someone's observing an

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experiment what about if something

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someone's observing the observer or

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where does then this is called infinite

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regression I mean if this were true

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right now I'm observing you and I'm

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collapsing all your quantum waves in a

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sense you're getting very small so so

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those are two challenges and von neumann

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came up with one idea to deal with this

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which was to create the idea that

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there's a wave collapse which some

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people refer to as a disappearing

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world's theory because when we take a

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quantum measurement we see a particular

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measurement from our classical measuring

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apparatus but all the other states in

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the quantum wave disappear some people

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call it don't-ask don't-tell

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so where do they go okay so the von

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Norman proposed that everything does

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evolve at a subatomic level you know

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over time from the Schrodinger wave

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equation but that the act of measurement

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arbitrarily and instantaneously projects

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one element onto classical reality is

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still very dependent on classical

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reality is that your abstract ego

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whatever that means is what collapses

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the wavefunction Hugh Everett the third

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didn't find this very acceptable he

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accepted the first axiom

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that we find the Schrodinger wave

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equation at the microscopic level but he

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said that wave collapse is an ad hoc

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idea that's more metaphysics and physics

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you're just throwing this in to make it

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seem to make sense but there's nothing

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in physics that tell us there should be

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wave collapse so he proposed a universal

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wavefunction in which the Schrodinger

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equation describes microscopic reality

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and macroscopic reality simultaneously

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he wrote a dissertation about that which

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was later retitled by Bryce to it the

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prices and they called it the

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many-worlds interpretation but he called

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it the universal wavefunction

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now very interestingly enough on page

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six in a footnote he refers to von

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Norman's idea of psychophysical

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parallelism which is really the kind of

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genesis of the multi worlds idea because

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what von neumann told us is that

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subjective states are equal

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to objective physical states from a

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physics point of view subjective

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phenomena are equally real to objective

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processes whatever people have different

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interpretations of what that means but

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he kind of created this idea that there

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are alternative possibilities so ever it

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believed that quantum mechanics should

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stand on its own the many-worlds

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interpretation without reference to

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observer or classical dynamics the

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observer isn't a superposition to the

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experimenter is in a superposition the

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superposition so all of these are real

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realities and the way ever it dealt with

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observer hukum becomes affected by the

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system all the realities are real that

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are scribed by the superposition and in

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just correlation and so he basically

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tells us that we're constantly splitting

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branches were not aware of the splitting

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and we're being pulled into the quantum

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wave at every moment in a superposition

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so we're ourselves in a superposition

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but we only see excuse me for a second a

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small sliver of it the observer forms a

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trajectory not a line so there's the

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there's ever an interpretation constant

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branching whatever it said that these

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branches never interact again so it's

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not very satisfying for most of us

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looking at these phenomena a newer

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version of this and we have to go over

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this quickly because of the time is the

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many interacting worldview no miw which

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says all quantum phenomena are the

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outcome of a near infinite number of

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what is quantum mechanics done for you

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they basically these people of Hall

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basically argue that you we can

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reproduce all quantum phenomena from the

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interactions of parallel realities the

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of them and they're not quite parallel

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a combination between bohmian dynamics

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except instead of one pilot wave there's

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a multi-dimensional pilot wave and

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parallel realities interact when they're

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in similar configuration spaces they

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create very small repulsive pressures on

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our own reality that gives rise to all

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quantum mechanical processes the people

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calculated through simulations that 41

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experiments including double Swit double

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slit and quantum tunneling zero-point

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energy and this is the simulation of the

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double slit experiment purely from

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parallel realities alone 41 parallel

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exactly is this theorem works in what's

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called the continuum limit which means

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we don't have an infinite number of

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parallel realities in the simulation

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close to what you see from double slit

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oxygen carbon we would have 2.3 times

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body and that means we could be react

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interacting with six point two times ten

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potentially at each moment no I I know

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what this theory is talking about for

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real no joke 620 billion billion billion

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parallel realities now here's one of the

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most interesting statements I mean it's

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psychophysical parallelism is

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interesting this is what they say it's

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not part of our theory but the idea of

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human interactions with other universes

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is no longer pure fantasy I mean that

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are you know peer-reviewed mainstream

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applications if you think of this type

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of phenomena we study because it's

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of phenomena are a result

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through them here result to bleed

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through from parallel realities this is

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what they're telling us and I got I

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think this theory got a little boast

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from Larry boost from Larry disease talk

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because basically what they're saying is

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similar configuration spaces they

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have to be close physically but

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similarly configured interact more often

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and that's what Larry was telling us

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with his study of twins the more that

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things are similarly structured the more

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great you're going to get this type of

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that non-local effects don't only come

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from parallel realities but from high

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degrees of correlation what they call

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so this might include some PK and some

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types of remote viewing so we don't need

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parallel realities for non-local effects

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they come from both our reality and from

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parallel realities now if you like the

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idea of this you're going to have to let

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go over the paranormal because this

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theory is saying that paranormal is

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normal in a world of multi-purpose

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you're going to get bleed through so you

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better get used to it if you don't like

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the idea bleed through just find another

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multiverse where it doesn't happen so

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much this is this is really what they're

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multiverse is an ultra weak but highly

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precise super structure of looks we only

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perceive the tile a tiny fraction at any

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fundamental reality multiverse two

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interactions are it's basically saying

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that what we have is that we see the

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Internet that's a toy compared to this

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huge interaction of multi versus which

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produces what we see would seem to be

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quantum place and one cool thing that

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drops out of this seems to me is perhaps

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dark energy I didn't get a picture of it

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because no one's seen it yet I can't but

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dark energy we're told as repulsive

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forces this theory works from repulsive

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forces to and maybe human creativity

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because perhaps geniuses and people that

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come up with really creative ideas are

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simply perceiving parallel realities

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that are very close to us but we

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normally don't perceive you could work

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with that idea imagination can be seen

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as a real parallel reality consciousness

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it's spread out now I have to thank rust

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art in a sense for this because at the

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urban meeting a couple years ago he said

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quantum mechanics remote viewing is

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nothing it was quantum mechanics it

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exists because you're a very large beam

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that spans space and time and this is

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kind of saying something similar except

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you're lots of little beans over many

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parallel realities so basically miw

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theory is the Roman Inquisition is worse

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a nightmare

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I mean this is saying things are

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infinite and we interact with them not

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what they wanted to hear back then at

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least

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we don't get burned at the stake for

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saying it and weirdly enough it's kind

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of consistent with hidden variables

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which Einstein talked about the

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multiverses and more because it's saying

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that actually it's classical is it's not

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it's not hidden and even ever in

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Australia of relative states so

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basically the conclusion is if you

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believe this model and reality leaks and

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that's the type of reality we live in so

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I think it's worthy of consideration

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okay thank you we have just a few

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minutes yet legends well don't everybody

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come roaring up here at once Oh a very

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cool idea yeah you really got the

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calculation of 10 to the 23rd what does

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that refer you to exactly parallel

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realities that you'd be interacting to

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just counting your electrons because

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this is kind of a physically-based

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pressure model based on particle you see

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those are basically the number of

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electrons in the human body based on

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their calculations of how many parallel

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realities per electron you need to

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recreate what we call quantum mechanics

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another question is that's the number

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for a static situation no this is

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dynamic don't you have huge numbers of a

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new entity a new possibility that's

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emerging out of we're up somewhere and

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they never they're gonna grow us here

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enormous Lee that's my rock and they're

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right or wrong about that no you're

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right it this is just you know it's just

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kind of a model and that's just a

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minimum a number and obviously we're not

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interacting with every possible parallel

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reality because it doesn't anything to

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do with you so if you have to look at

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the number you were interacting with you

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have to scale it down a bit but that's

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just looking at electrons that's out of

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their model you know is working someone

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with the ability to make a quantum

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computer or if it wasn't possible to

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make it depend in some way on this or

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would you still be able to make a

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quantum computer in a leaky reality

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that's a really good question Winston I

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don't know the answer to it I mean it

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would suggest that you would have to be

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correlated with other objects and things

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in the space that you're working with

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not the physical space by the

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configuration space but this model says

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that quantum mechanics isn't the

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fundamental reality that's it's just an

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interference pattern it's an

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interference pattern between like you

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have strings and you're the harmonic in

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between it and that it's there but it's

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coming from something else deeper yeah

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so I'm gonna sort of dumb down the

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conversation little I apologize not

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being able to speak in your terms but I

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know that one visual metaphor that's

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really helped me conceptualize I feel

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like what you're saying although I could

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be totally wrong and I it's not my own

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idea it was it was someone else's and

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but anyway is this idea that it's like a

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bunch of film like of a movie that's

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physical and like exists somewhere and

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every decision you make you make a new

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film and that all of that already exists

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for all consciousness decisions and our

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consciousness is just like a speck that

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linearly walks along that film and so

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where that speck chooses to go is our

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freewill the destiny is the fact that

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all those films have already been

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created so I don't know what helps them

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that that is it you got it yes thank you

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thank you okay